Collins Lays Out Plans to Reduce VA by 15% in Congressional Hearings

US Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) Secretary Doug Collins testified in US House of Representatives and US Senate committees hearings that bringing staff numbers down to fiscal year 2019 figures was simply a goal: “Our goal, as we look at it, as everything goes forward, is a 15% decrease,” he told the senators. “It’s a goal. You have to start somewhere.”

“It’s a process we’re going through and I’m not going to work out a process in front of a committee or anywhere else,” Collins testified in the Senate on May 6, adding that it would be “incompetence” or “malpractice” to do so before time. “[When] we’re doing something as large as we are in an organization as sensitive on this Hill, it would not be right for us to do that in public. It would not be right for us to just come out and say here’s everything that we got and then have everybody scared because in the end it may not be the final decision.”

“We’re going to come to the best possible decision we can for the veterans in this country so they can have a VA system that actually works,” Collins argued in the Senate. “The VA’s been an issue for a long time. We’re trying to not make it an issue anymore.”

Collins later told a House committee on May 15 that VA was conducting a thorough review of department structure and staffing across the enterpise. "Our goal is to increase productivity and efficiency and to eliminate waste and bureaucracy improving health care delivery and benefits to our veterans. We are going to maintain VA essential jobs like doctors and nurses and claims processors" but eliminate positions it deemed "nonmission-critical" and consolidating areas of "overlap and waste."

Senate ranking member Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) and Chairman Jerry Moran (R-KS) both placed an emphasis on accountability for responsible resizing at the hearing. 

“The department is at a critical juncture,” Moran said. “Perhaps that’s always true, and I want to hear from you that the changes under way at the VA are backed by data, informed by veteran demand, focused on improving outcomes for men and women the VA serves, and will be carried out in close coordination with this committee, as well as with veterans, VA staff, and veteran organizations.” Moran stressed that cutting should be about right-sizing, done carefully, and while treating people “with gratitude and respect.”

Blumenthal was more direct in his criticism of the approach: “You cannot slash and trash the VA without eliminating those essential positions which provide access and availability of health care. It simply cannot be done,” he told Collins.

In response, Collins replied, “You have stated on several occasions already that I am saying we are going to fire 83,000 employees. That is wrong.” Collins insisted that the VA was “looking at a goal of how many employees we have and how many employees that are actually working in the front line taking care. I have doctors and nurses right now that do not see patients. Is that helping veteran health care?”

Collins defended the actions of the VA and spoke about challenges he was “constantly fighting” in the early weeks of his tenure. “We’ve been hit by a barrage of false rumors, innuendo, disinformation, speculation implying firing doctors and nurses, and forcing staff to work in closets and showers and that there’s chaos in the department, none of which have been backed up. Why? Because we canceled some contracts that worked for the VA that we should be doing in-house and we let go of less than one half of one percent of nonmission critical employees.”

The Trump Administration offered federal employees the option of resigning, which purportedly will go toward meeting the 15% target. NPR reported that VA employees have since shared data showing that 11,273 agency employees nationwide have applied for deferred resignation. Most of those employees are nurses (about 1300), medical support assistants (about 800), and social workers (about 300). 

Collins stressed that the aim of restructuring was to protect veterans’ health care. By getting rid of DEI initiatives, the VA saved $14 million, which he said was redirected to veterans with disabilities who need prosthetics.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) addressed concerns about the existing shortage of clinicians at the VA, asking Collins what he was doing to bring in more doctors, nurses, and social workers. In addition to moving doctors and nurses from nonpatient care to patient care, Collins said, he planned to work with Congress to make salaries more competitive.

But money and adding more employees are not always the solution, Collins said. For example, he said, the VA has been spending $588 million a year veteran suicide research, its top clinical priority. Yet, he said there has not been a significant decrease in veteran suicide rates since 2008. 

The most recent VA suicide report, released in 2024, indicates suicide rates have remained steady since 2001. However, in 2022, the number of suicides among veterans (6407) was actually lower than in 12 of the previous 14 years. 

According to media reports, congressional lawmakers, and union officials, Veteran Crisis Line (VCL) staff were among the 2400 probationary employees fired in February. In a Feb. 20 video, Collins accused Democrats of spreading lies and insisted no one who answered the phone was fired.

Later, in a letter to senators, Collins admitted that 24 VCL support staff were “erroneously” sent termination notices. The firings were later reversed, Collins said, and all VCL employees had been reinstated at the same position they previously held. “Ensuring the VCL is always accessible 24/7 is one of the department’s top priorities,” Collins insisted.

Collins shared his approval of keeping and expanding VA programs and studies on psychedelic treatments for patients with posttraumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injury. He also spoke to the proposed 2026 budget calling for a $5.4 billion increase for the VA. If approved, that money would be targeted for medical care and homelessness. 

US Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) Secretary Doug Collins testified in US House of Representatives and US Senate committees hearings that bringing staff numbers down to fiscal year 2019 figures was simply a goal: “Our goal, as we look at it, as everything goes forward, is a 15% decrease,” he told the senators. “It’s a goal. You have to start somewhere.”

“It’s a process we’re going through and I’m not going to work out a process in front of a committee or anywhere else,” Collins testified in the Senate on May 6, adding that it would be “incompetence” or “malpractice” to do so before time. “[When] we’re doing something as large as we are in an organization as sensitive on this Hill, it would not be right for us to do that in public. It would not be right for us to just come out and say here’s everything that we got and then have everybody scared because in the end it may not be the final decision.”

“We’re going to come to the best possible decision we can for the veterans in this country so they can have a VA system that actually works,” Collins argued in the Senate. “The VA’s been an issue for a long time. We’re trying to not make it an issue anymore.”

Collins later told a House committee on May 15 that VA was conducting a thorough review of department structure and staffing across the enterpise. "Our goal is to increase productivity and efficiency and to eliminate waste and bureaucracy improving health care delivery and benefits to our veterans. We are going to maintain VA essential jobs like doctors and nurses and claims processors" but eliminate positions it deemed "nonmission-critical" and consolidating areas of "overlap and waste."

Senate ranking member Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) and Chairman Jerry Moran (R-KS) both placed an emphasis on accountability for responsible resizing at the hearing. 

“The department is at a critical juncture,” Moran said. “Perhaps that’s always true, and I want to hear from you that the changes under way at the VA are backed by data, informed by veteran demand, focused on improving outcomes for men and women the VA serves, and will be carried out in close coordination with this committee, as well as with veterans, VA staff, and veteran organizations.” Moran stressed that cutting should be about right-sizing, done carefully, and while treating people “with gratitude and respect.”

Blumenthal was more direct in his criticism of the approach: “You cannot slash and trash the VA without eliminating those essential positions which provide access and availability of health care. It simply cannot be done,” he told Collins.

In response, Collins replied, “You have stated on several occasions already that I am saying we are going to fire 83,000 employees. That is wrong.” Collins insisted that the VA was “looking at a goal of how many employees we have and how many employees that are actually working in the front line taking care. I have doctors and nurses right now that do not see patients. Is that helping veteran health care?”

Collins defended the actions of the VA and spoke about challenges he was “constantly fighting” in the early weeks of his tenure. “We’ve been hit by a barrage of false rumors, innuendo, disinformation, speculation implying firing doctors and nurses, and forcing staff to work in closets and showers and that there’s chaos in the department, none of which have been backed up. Why? Because we canceled some contracts that worked for the VA that we should be doing in-house and we let go of less than one half of one percent of nonmission critical employees.”

The Trump Administration offered federal employees the option of resigning, which purportedly will go toward meeting the 15% target. NPR reported that VA employees have since shared data showing that 11,273 agency employees nationwide have applied for deferred resignation. Most of those employees are nurses (about 1300), medical support assistants (about 800), and social workers (about 300). 

Collins stressed that the aim of restructuring was to protect veterans’ health care. By getting rid of DEI initiatives, the VA saved $14 million, which he said was redirected to veterans with disabilities who need prosthetics.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) addressed concerns about the existing shortage of clinicians at the VA, asking Collins what he was doing to bring in more doctors, nurses, and social workers. In addition to moving doctors and nurses from nonpatient care to patient care, Collins said, he planned to work with Congress to make salaries more competitive.

But money and adding more employees are not always the solution, Collins said. For example, he said, the VA has been spending $588 million a year veteran suicide research, its top clinical priority. Yet, he said there has not been a significant decrease in veteran suicide rates since 2008. 

The most recent VA suicide report, released in 2024, indicates suicide rates have remained steady since 2001. However, in 2022, the number of suicides among veterans (6407) was actually lower than in 12 of the previous 14 years. 

According to media reports, congressional lawmakers, and union officials, Veteran Crisis Line (VCL) staff were among the 2400 probationary employees fired in February. In a Feb. 20 video, Collins accused Democrats of spreading lies and insisted no one who answered the phone was fired.

Later, in a letter to senators, Collins admitted that 24 VCL support staff were “erroneously” sent termination notices. The firings were later reversed, Collins said, and all VCL employees had been reinstated at the same position they previously held. “Ensuring the VCL is always accessible 24/7 is one of the department’s top priorities,” Collins insisted.

Collins shared his approval of keeping and expanding VA programs and studies on psychedelic treatments for patients with posttraumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injury. He also spoke to the proposed 2026 budget calling for a $5.4 billion increase for the VA. If approved, that money would be targeted for medical care and homelessness. 

US Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) Secretary Doug Collins testified in US House of Representatives and US Senate committees hearings that bringing staff numbers down to fiscal year 2019 figures was simply a goal: “Our goal, as we look at it, as everything goes forward, is a 15% decrease,” he told the senators. “It’s a goal. You have to start somewhere.”

“It’s a process we’re going through and I’m not going to work out a process in front of a committee or anywhere else,” Collins testified in the Senate on May 6, adding that it would be “incompetence” or “malpractice” to do so before time. “[When] we’re doing something as large as we are in an organization as sensitive on this Hill, it would not be right for us to do that in public. It would not be right for us to just come out and say here’s everything that we got and then have everybody scared because in the end it may not be the final decision.”

“We’re going to come to the best possible decision we can for the veterans in this country so they can have a VA system that actually works,” Collins argued in the Senate. “The VA’s been an issue for a long time. We’re trying to not make it an issue anymore.”

Collins later told a House committee on May 15 that VA was conducting a thorough review of department structure and staffing across the enterpise. "Our goal is to increase productivity and efficiency and to eliminate waste and bureaucracy improving health care delivery and benefits to our veterans. We are going to maintain VA essential jobs like doctors and nurses and claims processors" but eliminate positions it deemed "nonmission-critical" and consolidating areas of "overlap and waste."

Senate ranking member Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) and Chairman Jerry Moran (R-KS) both placed an emphasis on accountability for responsible resizing at the hearing. 

“The department is at a critical juncture,” Moran said. “Perhaps that’s always true, and I want to hear from you that the changes under way at the VA are backed by data, informed by veteran demand, focused on improving outcomes for men and women the VA serves, and will be carried out in close coordination with this committee, as well as with veterans, VA staff, and veteran organizations.” Moran stressed that cutting should be about right-sizing, done carefully, and while treating people “with gratitude and respect.”

Blumenthal was more direct in his criticism of the approach: “You cannot slash and trash the VA without eliminating those essential positions which provide access and availability of health care. It simply cannot be done,” he told Collins.

In response, Collins replied, “You have stated on several occasions already that I am saying we are going to fire 83,000 employees. That is wrong.” Collins insisted that the VA was “looking at a goal of how many employees we have and how many employees that are actually working in the front line taking care. I have doctors and nurses right now that do not see patients. Is that helping veteran health care?”

Collins defended the actions of the VA and spoke about challenges he was “constantly fighting” in the early weeks of his tenure. “We’ve been hit by a barrage of false rumors, innuendo, disinformation, speculation implying firing doctors and nurses, and forcing staff to work in closets and showers and that there’s chaos in the department, none of which have been backed up. Why? Because we canceled some contracts that worked for the VA that we should be doing in-house and we let go of less than one half of one percent of nonmission critical employees.”

The Trump Administration offered federal employees the option of resigning, which purportedly will go toward meeting the 15% target. NPR reported that VA employees have since shared data showing that 11,273 agency employees nationwide have applied for deferred resignation. Most of those employees are nurses (about 1300), medical support assistants (about 800), and social workers (about 300). 

Collins stressed that the aim of restructuring was to protect veterans’ health care. By getting rid of DEI initiatives, the VA saved $14 million, which he said was redirected to veterans with disabilities who need prosthetics.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) addressed concerns about the existing shortage of clinicians at the VA, asking Collins what he was doing to bring in more doctors, nurses, and social workers. In addition to moving doctors and nurses from nonpatient care to patient care, Collins said, he planned to work with Congress to make salaries more competitive.

But money and adding more employees are not always the solution, Collins said. For example, he said, the VA has been spending $588 million a year veteran suicide research, its top clinical priority. Yet, he said there has not been a significant decrease in veteran suicide rates since 2008. 

The most recent VA suicide report, released in 2024, indicates suicide rates have remained steady since 2001. However, in 2022, the number of suicides among veterans (6407) was actually lower than in 12 of the previous 14 years. 

According to media reports, congressional lawmakers, and union officials, Veteran Crisis Line (VCL) staff were among the 2400 probationary employees fired in February. In a Feb. 20 video, Collins accused Democrats of spreading lies and insisted no one who answered the phone was fired.

Later, in a letter to senators, Collins admitted that 24 VCL support staff were “erroneously” sent termination notices. The firings were later reversed, Collins said, and all VCL employees had been reinstated at the same position they previously held. “Ensuring the VCL is always accessible 24/7 is one of the department’s top priorities,” Collins insisted.

Collins shared his approval of keeping and expanding VA programs and studies on psychedelic treatments for patients with posttraumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injury. He also spoke to the proposed 2026 budget calling for a $5.4 billion increase for the VA. If approved, that money would be targeted for medical care and homelessness.